# Finance Social Trends & Public Discussions — 2026-09-30 12:20 UTC > **Category:** Finance > **Status:** Trending Up > **Timestamp:** 2026-09-30 12:20 UTC (2026-09-30T12:20:00Z) > **Canonical URL:** https://cryptitalk.com/2026-09-30-12-20/non_crypto/finance > **Overview Brief:** https://cryptitalk.com/2026-09-30-12-20/non_crypto.md --- ## 10-Minute Category Volume & Sentiment - **Total Posts:** 45 - **Total Impressions:** 358.9K - **Bullish / Positive:** 21 - **Bearish / Negative:** 5 - **Neutral:** 19 --- ## Engagement Analysis Total Engagement - Comments: 394, Retweets: 275, Likes: 4654, Impressions: 358949 --- ## Cited Discussions & Public Evidence ### Discussion #1 by @0xCzyan > **Author:** [@0xCzyan](https://x.com/0xCzyan) > **Metrics:** 343 likes · 20 retweets · 227 comments · 288.9K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-29T13:16:01+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/0xCzyan/status/2104923152145158549](https://x.com/0xCzyan/status/2104923152145158549) > > "I'd like to ask: How large does the principal need to be to truly feel the power of compound interest?" ### Discussion #2 by @99hyce > **Author:** [@99hyce](https://x.com/99hyce) > **Metrics:** 1.8K likes · 216 retweets · 3 comments · 21.5K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T08:10:36+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/99hyce/status/2105208677468700749](https://x.com/99hyce/status/2105208677468700749) > > "If the algorithm shows you this, you will be touching a lot of money in October." ### Discussion #3 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 214 likes · 2 retweets · 37 comments · 21.4K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T01:03:31.631000+00:00 > > "S&p 500 stocks that pays good dividends. Suggested" ### Discussion #4 by @NiphermeDave > **Author:** [@NiphermeDave](https://x.com/NiphermeDave) > **Metrics:** 64 likes · 13 retweets · 24 comments · 4.8K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:45:32+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/NiphermeDave/status/2105262766684578043](https://x.com/NiphermeDave/status/2105262766684578043) > > "it’s not too late to make a hundred grand, this year." ### Discussion #5 by @trader1sz > **Author:** [@trader1sz](https://x.com/trader1sz) > **Metrics:** 4 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 4.1K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:22:30+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/trader1sz/status/2105272073233023027](https://x.com/trader1sz/status/2105272073233023027) > **Visual Context:** A 4-hour Binance chart of the Czech Koruna/U.S. Dollar (ZECUSD) pair shows price at 1,400.9900358, down 1.23%, with key resistance marked at the "September high" near 1,696 and support levels at the mid-range (~1,242), 1,015, and the "September low" at 788.77, reflecting the poster's bearish outlook based on their quant signals suggesting a potential top after the recent rally. > > "my quants tell me they're cashing out if im wrong so be it...hes been rigght on previous longs i posted and sort of nailed top we shall see" ### Discussion #6 by @BullTheoryio > **Author:** [@BullTheoryio](https://x.com/BullTheoryio) > **Metrics:** 80 likes · 12 retweets · 5 comments · 3.2K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:15:14+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/BullTheoryio/status/2105270243195240852](https://x.com/BullTheoryio/status/2105270243195240852) > **Visual Context:** A man in a dark suit and tie stands before a microphone, likely in a government hearing setting, suggesting he may be an economic official or Federal Reserve member commenting on today's ADP Employment Change report showing 90K jobs added, exceeding the expected 73K. > > "BREAKING: ADP Employment Change came in at 90K, higher than expected. Expectations: 73K" ### Discussion #7 by @T_buppan_T > **Author:** [@T_buppan_T](https://x.com/T_buppan_T) > **Metrics:** 5 likes · 0 retweets · 1 comments · 3.1K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T10:44:07+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/T_buppan_T/status/2105247314302660663](https://x.com/T_buppan_T/status/2105247314302660663) > > "Here's the insider know-how on spotting genuine vs. fake SILVER amid skyrocketing prices ↓" ### Discussion #8 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 13 likes · 0 retweets · 19 comments · 1.3K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T08:00:16.847000+00:00 > > "Daily FI discussion thread - Wednesday, September 30, 2026 Suggested" ### Discussion #9 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 11 likes · 0 retweets · 2 comments · 1.1K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T08:03:05.940000+00:00 > > "SCHD vs VIG vs DGRO: Dividend Growth Suggested" ### Discussion #10 by @wallstreetcn_live:wallstreetcn_live > **Author:** [@wallstreetcn_live:wallstreetcn_live](https://x.com/wallstreetcn_live:wallstreetcn_live) > **Metrics:** 1.0K likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 1.0K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:21:39.044471+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/wallstreetcn_live:wallstreetcn_live/status/https://wallstreetcn.com/livenews/3172927](https://x.com/wallstreetcn_live:wallstreetcn_live/status/https://wallstreetcn.com/livenews/3172927) > > "提醒:北京时间20:30,将公布美国二季度GDP终值,8月个人收入、个人消费支出(PCE)。" ### Discussion #11 by @wallstreetcn_news:wallstreetcn_news > **Author:** [@wallstreetcn_news:wallstreetcn_news](https://x.com/wallstreetcn_news:wallstreetcn_news) > **Metrics:** 1.0K likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 1.0K views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:20:41.040680+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/wallstreetcn_news:wallstreetcn_news/status/https://wallstreetcn.com/articles/3782836](https://x.com/wallstreetcn_news:wallstreetcn_news/status/https://wallstreetcn.com/articles/3782836) > > "股价反弹40%后, 美光今夜迎财报大考:净利预期暴增超1000%,市场紧盯明年AI资本开支 市场预计美光第四财季净利同比暴增超1000%、营收增长逾350%,但股价自7月低点已反弹超40%,业绩利好部分已被市场消化。相比当季业绩,投资者更关注管理层对2027年超大规模云厂商AI资本开支的判断,以及内存价格上涨能否延续,这将成为美光后续估值重估的关键。" ### Discussion #12 by @DustyBC > **Author:** [@DustyBC](https://x.com/DustyBC) > **Metrics:** 3 likes · 2 retweets · 0 comments · 786 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:18:38+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/DustyBC/status/2105271096148627607](https://x.com/DustyBC/status/2105271096148627607) > **Visual Context:** A man in a dark blue suit and tie sits at a table with a microphone, appearing to be in a formal hearing or government setting, likely a news broadcast or political screenshot. > > "𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: US ADP Employment Change just came in at 90,000, higher than the expected 73,000" ### Discussion #13 by @laurashin > **Author:** [@laurashin](https://x.com/laurashin) > **Metrics:** 1 likes · 0 retweets · 4 comments · 754 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:24:00+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/laurashin/status/2105272448505786754](https://x.com/laurashin/status/2105272448505786754) > > "Kalshi is ending its Volume Incentive Program, which paid traders based on their share of trading volume. A CFTC filing moves the end date to Oct. 13, nearly a year ahead of schedule." ### Discussion #14 by @TradingPuzzles > **Author:** [@TradingPuzzles](https://x.com/TradingPuzzles) > **Metrics:** 7 likes · 1 retweets · 3 comments · 632 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T05:43:19+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/TradingPuzzles/status/2105171613805105385](https://x.com/TradingPuzzles/status/2105171613805105385) > > "The Strongest And Weakest Currencies at the Opening of the London Trading Session JPY is the strongest AUD and CHF are the weakest #forex, #forextrading #ForexMarket #forexsignals #forextips #ForexEducation #goldtrading #goldsignals #goldanalysis #silversignals" ### Discussion #15 by @KanikaBK > **Author:** [@KanikaBK](https://x.com/KanikaBK) > **Metrics:** 6 likes · 0 retweets · 2 comments · 603 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T10:56:00+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/KanikaBK/status/2105250304098992595](https://x.com/KanikaBK/status/2105250304098992595) > > "I think Apple Pay launching in India is one of those updates that looks simple but matters. India already has an incredible digital payments ecosystem. Now Apple is finally adding its own payment layer to it. Curious to see how quickly people start using it." ### Discussion #16 by @andygamblor > **Author:** [@andygamblor](https://x.com/andygamblor) > **Metrics:** 8 likes · 0 retweets · 2 comments · 557 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:13:40+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/andygamblor/status/2105254748815245375](https://x.com/andygamblor/status/2105254748815245375) > > "I’ve got 2 theories on Abstract 1. It’s utterly fucked game over welcome to Hell 2. The entire thing is a psyop and they’re going to spring back up and go GIGABULL" ### Discussion #17 by @Gizemyildirim > **Author:** [@Gizemyildirim](https://x.com/Gizemyildirim) > **Metrics:** 7 likes · 0 retweets · 3 comments · 482 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:21:14+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/Gizemyildirim/status/2105256651360207128](https://x.com/Gizemyildirim/status/2105256651360207128) > > "#BRENT ’TE TAM KARAR NOKTASI! 97,17$ ile 96,95–98,00$ bandının içinde. Bu bölge aşılmadan yönü net değil. 98,00$ üstü: 99,00$ 96,95$ altı: 96,00 → 95,10 → 93,70$ Hangi taraf kazanırsa hareket oraya akabilir. #petrol #dolar" ### Discussion #18 by @FxChoudhary > **Author:** [@FxChoudhary](https://x.com/FxChoudhary) > **Metrics:** 4 likes · 2 retweets · 1 comments · 474 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:41:55+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/FxChoudhary/status/2105261857019715848](https://x.com/FxChoudhary/status/2105261857019715848) > **Visual Context:** A promotional graphic for TradeifyFX showcasing a "CHOUDHARY 50% OFF" maximum discount code, featuring a laptop displaying the trading platform website, a branded coffee mug, and a smartphone—all set against a blue-toned desk scene with call-to-action "CLAIM NOW" text and the tagline "Trade Smarter Grow Faster." The image advertises the FX CHOUDHARY Community's official partnership with TradeifyFX, offering 50% off with coupon code "CHOUDHARY" for new sign-ups at the prop trading firm. > > "TRADEIFY FOREX Website is live, register yourself LINK - app.tradeifyfx.co/signup Also FX CHOUDHARY Community is a official partner of TRADEIFYFX Purchasing Link - tracking.tradeifyfx.co/click?o=1&a=595 Use coupon code - CHOUDHARY For 50% off If you face any problems, feel free to DM" ### Discussion #19 by @tbohen > **Author:** [@tbohen](https://x.com/tbohen) > **Metrics:** 2 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 429 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:09:01+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/tbohen/status/2105253576662462861](https://x.com/tbohen/status/2105253576662462861) > > "ADP at 8:15. PCE and GDP at 8:30 ET. Before that first release, check your open orders and alerts. Preparation includes knowing what your platform could execute while you’re busy reading a headline." ### Discussion #20 by @WEEX_Turkiye > **Author:** [@WEEX_Turkiye](https://x.com/WEEX_Turkiye) > **Metrics:** 7 likes · 1 retweets · 4 comments · 405 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T10:21:11+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/WEEX_Turkiye/status/2105241542650642597](https://x.com/WEEX_Turkiye/status/2105241542650642597) > > "Altın pazartesi günü yaklaşık %4 düşerek yedi haftanın en düşük seviyesini gördü. ABD-İran gerginliği petrolü yukarı çekerken, ABD Hazine tahvili getirileri de onlarca yılın en yüksek seviyesine ulaştı. Bağlantı basit: altının faizi yok. Getiriler yükselip Fed'in yeniden faiz" ### Discussion #21 by @CorySwan > **Author:** [@CorySwan](https://x.com/CorySwan) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 1 comments · 371 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:59:21+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/CorySwan/status/2105266247122157953](https://x.com/CorySwan/status/2105266247122157953) > > "Today’s Outside Money is up!" ### Discussion #22 by @destined4life_ > **Author:** [@destined4life_](https://x.com/destined4life_) > **Metrics:** 5 likes · 0 retweets · 1 comments · 337 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T10:48:40+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/destined4life_/status/2105248455908078045](https://x.com/destined4life_/status/2105248455908078045) > **Visual Context:** A humorous comic-style image showing a green-haired female trader obsessed with forex, with her partner asking 'Babe, are you done playing forex' and her defensive reply 'playing'. The watermark 'stangbug.fx' is visible in the corner. > > "Never tell a trader he's PLAYING forex" ### Discussion #23 by @StockGuru2027 > **Author:** [@StockGuru2027](https://x.com/StockGuru2027) > **Metrics:** 8 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 245 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:17:31+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/StockGuru2027/status/2105255716449841247](https://x.com/StockGuru2027/status/2105255716449841247) > > "Good morning October hike odds faded. NY Fed President John Williams said there was “no need for urgency” to raise rates next month. $SPY $TSLA $AMZN $GOOGL $QQQ $HOOD $NVDA $AAPL $MFST $AMD $META $PLTR $CAR $BYND $OPEN $RKLB $ASTS $MVRL $QCOM $SPCX" ### Discussion #24 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 2 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 200 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:26:18.577000+00:00 > > "4 insiders bought $59.1M in $GME shares in the last 3 weeks (so far...)" ### Discussion #25 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 2 likes · 0 retweets · 37 comments · 200 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-29T06:15:07.718000+00:00 > > "Mailing Address vs. "Residential Address" for Credit Cards Suggested" ### Discussion #26 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 2 likes · 0 retweets · 8 comments · 200 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T09:39:18.140000+00:00 > > "How can i best invest my money at 19 in the UK Suggested" ### Discussion #27 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 2 likes · 0 retweets · 1 comments · 200 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-27T03:45:12.362000+00:00 > > "RBC goease or Wealthsimple? Suggested" ### Discussion #28 by @zhuanbidao > **Author:** [@zhuanbidao](https://x.com/zhuanbidao) > **Metrics:** 1 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 141 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:34:58+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/zhuanbidao/status/2105260110285348869](https://x.com/zhuanbidao/status/2105260110285348869) > > "高盛这边放出一个测算,美国养老金基金,准备卖出330亿美金的股票。 这笔卖出规模,放到2000年以来的数据里,属于很高的级别。 不过也不用直接就看空,CTA资金有可能对冲这波抛压。行情平稳的时候,他们会买入115亿,要是继续上涨,买盘能到接近300亿。" ### Discussion #29 by @adewale_dahunsi > **Author:** [@adewale_dahunsi](https://x.com/adewale_dahunsi) > **Metrics:** 1 likes · 0 retweets · 1 comments · 111 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:07:34+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/adewale_dahunsi/status/2105253214039798133](https://x.com/adewale_dahunsi/status/2105253214039798133) > > "Paid to Read Email is accepting users worldwide Online earning opportunity Earn by reading emails and completing offers $3 sign-up bonus Available internationally, including Nigeria Minimum withdrawal: $15 Apply here: paid-to-read-email.com" ### Discussion #30 by @PieschFlo > **Author:** [@PieschFlo](https://x.com/PieschFlo) > **Metrics:** 1 likes · 0 retweets · 1 comments · 111 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:25:25+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/PieschFlo/status/2105272806351237609](https://x.com/PieschFlo/status/2105272806351237609) > > "The Work paid off for @InvestorEvolut #trading #daytrading #trader #propfirm #tradingeducation" ### Discussion #31 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 1 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 100 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:24:30.403000+00:00 > > "EUR/USD long after a higher-timeframe sweep and displacement." ### Discussion #32 by @yahyaiqbal40785 > **Author:** [@yahyaiqbal40785](https://x.com/yahyaiqbal40785) > **Metrics:** 8 likes · 3 retweets · 5 comments · 44 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:10:02+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/yahyaiqbal40785/status/2105268932957581510](https://x.com/yahyaiqbal40785/status/2105268932957581510) > **Visual Context:** A bustling street scene at sunset in a market area, showing a "Mobile Zone" shop selling accessories and offering repair services for brands like Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo; a hand holds a yellow shopping bag with a Samsung phone box in the foreground. > > "Evening Market Vibes" ### Discussion #33 by @Miralect_SMC_Qn > **Author:** [@Miralect_SMC_Qn](https://x.com/Miralect_SMC_Qn) > **Metrics:** 3 likes · 1 retweets · 2 comments · 35 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T07:32:08+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/Miralect_SMC_Qn/status/2105198996302053396](https://x.com/Miralect_SMC_Qn/status/2105198996302053396) > > "The way I've been trading AUDJPY these days. I'm attracted to her." ### Discussion #34 by @lanogueira > **Author:** [@lanogueira](https://x.com/lanogueira) > **Metrics:** 1 likes · 1 retweets · 0 comments · 24 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:29:43+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/lanogueira/status/2105258788886581292](https://x.com/lanogueira/status/2105258788886581292) > > "A população precisa saber toda a verdade que envolve Lula e o Banco Master. Comentei o assunto no programa “Faroeste à Brasileira“, no canal da Revista Oeste no YouTube, com apresentação de Gustavo Segré. #ExplicaeDescomplicaaEconomia" ### Discussion #35 by @MultiplMovement > **Author:** [@MultiplMovement](https://x.com/MultiplMovement) > **Metrics:** 2 likes · 1 retweets · 0 comments · 19 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:42:54+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/MultiplMovement/status/2105262106958336163](https://x.com/MultiplMovement/status/2105262106958336163) > > "Children’s stories always teach us more than we realise when we’re small. Learn from Jack and get your magic beans. Download Multipl now. #Multipl #SpendingAccountWithUPI #LiquidMutualFunds #fyp #trending Multipl is a AMFI registered Mutual Fund Distributor (ARN No. 319633)." ### Discussion #36 by @Family59110 > **Author:** [@Family59110](https://x.com/Family59110) > **Metrics:** 1 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 15 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T11:36:46+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/Family59110/status/2105260562557071627](https://x.com/Family59110/status/2105260562557071627) > > "当国内已经热议金价大跌的时候,你就可以买进了!" ### Discussion #37 by @0xALTF4 > **Author:** [@0xALTF4](https://x.com/0xALTF4) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 11 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:19:46+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/0xALTF4/status/2105271382808621206](https://x.com/0xALTF4/status/2105271382808621206) > > "history compounds" ### Discussion #38 by @DD____ > **Author:** [@DD____](https://x.com/DD____) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 3 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:23:06+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/DD____/status/2105272222432805076](https://x.com/DD____/status/2105272222432805076) > > "Chart speaks" ### Discussion #39 by @McCain889 > **Author:** [@McCain889](https://x.com/McCain889) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 3 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:23:19+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/McCain889/status/2105272275390042369](https://x.com/McCain889/status/2105272275390042369) > > "Future charts will make today look absurd" ### Discussion #40 by @jaouad2d > **Author:** [@jaouad2d](https://x.com/jaouad2d) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 3 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:23:09+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/jaouad2d/status/2105272233073451368](https://x.com/jaouad2d/status/2105272233073451368) > > "finally some clarity on these complex products" ### Discussion #41 by @VPhm23380671 > **Author:** [@VPhm23380671](https://x.com/VPhm23380671) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 2 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:25:32+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/VPhm23380671/status/2105272835233210720](https://x.com/VPhm23380671/status/2105272835233210720) > > "Seed round timing makes sense" ### Discussion #42 by @VPhm23380671 > **Author:** [@VPhm23380671](https://x.com/VPhm23380671) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 1 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:21:01+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/VPhm23380671/status/2105271699994484811](https://x.com/VPhm23380671/status/2105271699994484811) > > "Four figures in, four figures out." ### Discussion #43 by @Dee_MeBTC > **Author:** [@Dee_MeBTC](https://x.com/Dee_MeBTC) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 1 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:22:23+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/Dee_MeBTC/status/2105272040660038031](https://x.com/Dee_MeBTC/status/2105272040660038031) > > "JPY strength at the open is surprising today." ### Discussion #44 by @0xaurSkyo > **Author:** [@0xaurSkyo](https://x.com/0xaurSkyo) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 1 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:24:04+00:00 > **Source Link:** [https://x.com/0xaurSkyo/status/2105272464666403297](https://x.com/0xaurSkyo/status/2105272464666403297) > > "0佣金不错耶!" ### Discussion #45 by @reddit > **Author:** [@reddit](https://x.com/reddit) > **Metrics:** 0 likes · 0 retweets · 0 comments · 0 views > **Posted:** 2026-09-30T12:23:13.039000+00:00 > > "2.57 million GME shares failed to deliver in early September 👀"